Recessed at 12:55 p.m.; reconvened on October 23, 1997 at 9:30 a.m.
Stutsman: Discussion regarding cash flow analysis for
August and September, and we do need to have Lynnette come up for
that, so Karen if you want to call Lynnette in the Auditor's
Office. Inquiries and reports from the public, no one this
morning. Inquiries and reports from members of the Board of
Supervisors. Joe, do you have anything this morning?
Bolkcom: Yes, a couple of things. Attended the MH/DD Planning Council Meeting on Tuesday afternoon, visited about a number of things, they're electing a new chair and a new vice chair and secretary and Jonathan's been at least nominated and voted in as the new chair of the Planning Council. Had a report from Craig Mosher about how things are going with his program there. Attended a meeting yesterday afternoon on the committees efforts to continue to work on putting together a GIS system, a geographical information system for the County, and we've got a recommendation out of the subcommittee that's been working on that for the last few months too. We're doing an RFP to bring in a couple of companies to basically give us, do a needs assessment of how we might put that together and they're recommending that we have a couple different firms that have agreed to do it at no cost, to do a needs assessment and we're going to be looking at that. I attended the Senior Center town meeting yesterday afternoon with other members of the Board, Steve and Charlie, and Jonathan. Charlie did a great job I thought representing us, good discussion, a lot of concerns brought up and Charlie probably has more to say about that. That's it.
Stutsman: Jonathan?
Jordahl: Yes, I also attended the town meeting at the Senior Center yesterday. There was a lot of discussion about Senior Center parking, I think an issue for volunteers there. Particularly volunteers at the Senior Dining Program that were so strongly involved with. That still has been left as members of the Senior Center Commission, we're discussing it in response to public question as we don't have parking for the Senior Dining volunteers. That's still an issue. I think the Board may want to continue to address that. Tonight I'm going to be attending the Hawkeye Area Community Action Program annual dinner, a fund raiser at the Highlander. I think if folks want to attend that, they could call HACAP in Cedar Rapids at 366-7631, to see if tickets are still available. This is Thursday, the 23rd of October. Also tonight there's going to be discussion of siting Linn County Landfill, the Bluestem Solid Waste Agency at the Jefferson High School cafeteria at 7:00. That's 1243 20th Street Southwest, if people are interested in that. The homecoming parade on Friday coming up, I don't know if the Board of Supervisors wants to discuss that during this reports from the Board or what, they were going to participate.
Bolkcom: Just one.
Jordahl: Yes.
Stutsman: I'm going to be out of town, with the homecoming, Iowa State. I'll do my best.
Jordahl: One more thing, the Social Welfare Board is meeting at 7:00 on Monday and I believe that's at First Christian Church.
Stutsman: Is that correct Bob, First Christian Church.
Jordahl: Yes, 7:00 discussing and taking input from the public also on the issue of why do people on welfare not have jobs? Maybe Bob wants to say something about that.
Welsh: No, I think it will be an interesting discussion.
Stutsman: Steve, any reports?
Lacina: Just attended some of the meetings with the rest of the Board, you and I attended the Recorder's Study Committee meeting last night and they will be wrapping up probably within the next month or so, doing a lot of work, commend them for their work. I want to commend the juvenile detention officers that are working with the court system, they gave a great presentation this morning about programs for cleaning up graffiti and working with kids to show them what the effects that some of their mistakes have been and to help reorient their logic. They do a great job, the juvenile detention officers. Other than that, I think it's been pretty well covered.
Stutsman: OK, Charlie?
Duffy: I thought the town meeting did go well yesterday and what Jonathan has said, the big thing is the parking, we've talked about that for years and years. I'm almost ready to give up on it because they have the thing, the Senior Dining, that was one of their concerns. The Senior Dining Volunteer banquet was last Monday. With these volunteers and the help of staff, they serve about 108,000 meals and I thought it was just great and that gives us a lot of bang for the buck, it was not the tax payers dollars, it was left in a will for things like this, I thought Reverend Bob did a good job in seeing the program. Bob, he's pretty good when he starts telling jokes and...
Bolkcom: TV show.
Duffy: Joe and Jonathan were there, Jonathan surprised me, the way he moved around the crowd with hot coffee and all that. Evidently he's served in dining places before, is that right, Jonathan?
Jordahl: You betcha, working your way through grad school a lot of restaurant jobs.
Duffy: Keep that in mind for next year. Attended a Water Shed meeting at Northwest Junior High in Coralville. I was there for a little over an hour with Naomi Novick, that started at 10:00, so we were there past 11, it's very interesting this Watershed business because of the Feds have about 10 watersheds that they're really going to scrutinize, but it's not in this County. In fact, the Federal Government plays a big part with the operation of their dam at Coralville. It was very interesting. Then let's see, yesterday, I met with Emergency Management Committee last night and that also was very interesting, I think I reported before, I think our Emergency Management Personnel are a step ahead of most of the counties. One of the things that they did last week was to have an auto rescue class for the Johnson County Sheriff's Department, there were 48 deputies, and they all participated, and some of these newer cars are just made different than the older cars, in case of automobile accidents and that's what they zeroed in on this time. They got these newer cars that were smashed anyway in accidents, totaled out, and used those in case there was an accident in these newer automobiles because they already know about the older ones, just how to treat the accident and I'll say right now, I've seen exercises like hits, and I've said this before, if you're ever in an accident, somebody rear ends you, or an accident that's quite severe, just sit in that automobile until the emergency personnel are there, it could mean the difference of you having to spend the rest of your life in a wheelchair or could remain healthy. Just one movement like your neck could be broke and the vertebrae could be off to the side and you wouldn't even know it, you could get out and walk around, then all of a sudden when they get off of that pedestal, then you're done. So, it was very interesting. I really appreciated that. There was an educational public hearing last night, I didn't stay too long for that one, Sally, I know you were there.
Stutsman: Yes.
Lacina: Is that with the representatives of the...
Stutsman: Legislators, yes.
Duffy: Because I had to leave to go...Any of this information on Emergency Management is out at....
Stutsman: Good report, been a busy week for
Supervisors, a lot going on.
Stutsman: I too attended the MH/MR/DD Planning Council
meeting, the Recorder meeting, I think those have already been
reported on. Attended the Chamber Board Meeting this morning and
they had Jim Dittle there, who represented the US Chamber. He
gave a review of the Chamber's application for
reaccredidation. They do this every 3 years and everything seems
right on target so that, it hasn't been formalized, but
probably they will receive accreditation again. Update from the
National Job Network Proposal. This is an Internet based
employment search. That would go nation wide. You have to have
participation from local employers to be a part of this. There is
a membership fee and the Chamber feels they pretty well have
acquired the necessary membership fee and will be able to offer
this service to all members of the Chamber so that means the
Board of Supervisors will be able to list jobs on a nation wide
web site. What's kind of good about it is that they will
post the job and then there are 18 legs to this web site so it
would be beneficial, but that's still being looked at, but
it looks pretty promising. John also gave an update about the
governmental affairs position that I talked about briefly last
month. The home builders and realtors are looking into this and
seeing if it fits into their budget. To see if they have moneys
to staff this position. This would be a person that would keep
Chamber members updated on local and State and some nationwide
issues that affect them. For instance, we're reviewing our
comp plan and they would monitor that and give that information
to Chamber members so that they could be informed on a timely
basis of what's going on. It's pretty awesome, the
meetings that are required. It's difficult to monitor that.
So by having one person doing that for local government would
assist them. But it's a matter of funding that position. So
there's interest, but whether they can find the moneys to do
that. They're still looking at that. John Becker also
presented a preliminary draft of the 1998 budget and I have
information on that if anybody's interested in looking that
over. It's a pretty complete preliminary proposal with
comments. So if you're interested, I have information on
that. I also had a Juvenile Crime Prevention Policy Board meeting
yesterday morning and we talked about an update on the Iowa Plan.
This is the proposed RFP that the State is putting together to
include Child Welfare Services in the Managed Care Plan as well
as substance abuse and mental health. Lots of interest and
concern about this, and the policy board will be sending a letter
to Chuck Palmer with the Department of Human Services, as well as
legislators about our concern about the RFP and it's
proposal. We also had a report on statistics on the local level.
There are some alarming trends that I think that we need to be
aware of. One of the things is that we're seeing younger
children coming into the system. We need to address that and
seeing lots of substance abuse problems with adults and that
definitely has an impact on kids. Gang affiliations, so it's
all things that we need to be concerned about. One of the most
disconcerting thing was that parents are really in some cases
just giving up on kids. They just walk away from their kids so
then it's a real impact on what happens to these families.
So I think we've got our work cut out for us in keeping up
on these trends and what we can do about it. One thing that we
talked about coming out of the policy board was maybe forming
some kind of citizens group that would be broad based, that would
be an advocate for children in addressing some of these concerns.
So that will be part of our ongoing discussion. I wanted to
remind people of the Safe Place kick off this afternoon at 4:00.
Also, attended the public hearing on the Legislators about
education issues. It was a good hearing, lots of people were
there, and a very broad based cross section of people there. I
just gave my 2 bits worth as far as being an advocate for
children and recognizing that education is an important function
of the school system, but I think as we see more of a trend for
cutting back on preventive services State wide that we're
going to have to depend on the schools to get more involved in
children's issues and looking at more pre-school
programming, extending the school year, looking at opening up a
school facilities for after school activities, and things.
It's going to play a bigger role in children's lives in
the community so... I think that's everything I had this
morning.
DEPUTY AUDITORY LYNNETTE HULTMAN: JOHNSON COUNTY CASH FLOW ANALYSIS FOR AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER
Stutsman: Lynette, thank you for being patient, if you can bring us up to date on the cash flow analysis. I left my materials in the back. I know Steve has them, can you wait just a second?
Deputy Auditor Lynnette Hultman: Sure, that's fine.
Stutsman: I thought I could read off of Jonathan's.
Jordahl: Well here.
Stutsman: Well yes, I guess I can. OK. Joe's going to... Is that.
Jordahl: I don't know, is that what this is?
Stutsman: Well it was green, but I don't think that...I think there was...
Lacina: No, that's the fund deposits. It's...
Jordahl: That green one, huh? I don't think I have that green one.
Bolkcom: Good morning.
Hultman: Good morning.
Bolkcom: How are you?
Hultman: Good.
Bolkcom: Busy week.
Lacina: Again.
Bolkcom: That was quite a report, Sally.
Stutsman: Yes.
Bolkcom: Busy week.
Hultman: Sounds like everybody was busy this week.
Stutsman: A lot going on, and it usually happens that way, it usually comes in spurts. At least you hope it does that and you can kind of keep up. Well this is something we had on the agenda for Tuesday and we ran out of time so we asked Lynette to come in today and review it with us.
Hultman: OK, this is our cash flow analysis. I've got some reports in here from August too, since I didn't make it up in August to go over that, but I'll probably focus more on September's since that's the most current one. On the very top you should have the monthly activity for the month of September. You can see all the County funds on the first page and the first part of the 2nd page. It shows the beginning balance and all the revenues and expenditures in each fund for the month of September. You'll notice the taxes were due in September so you'll see a lot of receipts in the taxes area. Some of those will carry through and show in October, too because they haven't gotten posted yet. There's a report for August following September so you can kind of look at that too, later on if you want to.
Jordahl: Lynette?
Hultman: Uh-huh.
Jordahl: Let me interrupt for one second on this, this is laid out here and everything. I'm wondering if we have our screen, we have that new computer projector. Is this from a computer screen, so we could perhaps in the future broadcast these, project them rather onto this screen so that it would be easier for people to see what was going on that are attending meetings.
Stutsman: That's a good idea.
Jordahl: I think maybe to the extent that we're able to do that, not just your office, but zoning and whoever else has items that are on the computer we could bring them on a disk or whatever from the network, we've got a network connection in here to the laptop. We could bring a lot of this stuff in.
Stutsman: OK.
Bolkcom: It might require some reformat. These are...
Hultman: Yes, this...
Bolkcom: You're not going to be able to read this very well on the...
Hultman: It's long, it's like this on the computer. But we could do one screen by screen or something like that.
Jordahl: Yes, if it's possible, we can look into that. I'm not saying there's something wrong here, I'm saying there's an opportunity here and maybe we ought to look at that.
Hultman: Yes.
Bolkcom: Great.
Hultman: OK, then following those reports, there's the roll forward of fund balances. This will show a cumulative look of each fund, all their expenditures, receipts, and transfers in and out for the fiscal year, beginning July 1st through September 30th. So it's just kind of a year to date picture of what's happened so far.
Jordahl: Lynette, what does this mean. What does it say, I'm looking for interpretation here.
Hultman: Well...
Jordahl: Are we in good shape or are we...
Hultman: It's basically just a picture in time just so you can see...
Jordahl: Are we behind.
Hultman: No I don't think so, I think everything's pretty much the way it usually is.
Jordahl: So things, we're proceeding to spend money as we had projected and budgeted basically.
Hultman: Uh-huh.
Stutsman: There's nothing that we should be alerted to or anything.
Hultman: No.
Stutsman: OK.
Hultman: Really what I focus on more is the green and white pages when I go through the departments. Then we'll look at individual departments who are over or under. That's really where my analysis is, is looking at the department level. OK, if you want to get to that then, the first green section you should have is the revenues, and at September 30th, we're 25 percent. Most of the ones that are below 25 percent, it's still pretty normal for this time of year. Most of them have to do with grants being received after the expenditures are made, so it's kind of a catch up. Or a lot of the departments also have one time payments that come at a certain point in the year and we just haven't hit that point yet. So I guess I'm probably not going to focus too much on going through those because it's pretty much those explanations for all of them. If you have any questions on those, if you want to just take a look and...
Jordahl: Let me just start with a basic interpretation.
Hultman: Uh-huh.
Jordahl: Parenthesis kind of can mean opposite things depending upon what category you're in, right? It could be a positive or a negative, I think. When talking about unexpended balance here, so my brain really stops when you go to unexpended and negative within that category. That's why I'm asking what this means.
Hultman: OK, first of all, revenues are always a credit balance. That's just the way, in accounting, expenses are debit, revenues are a credit. So you're going to see parenthesis on all these numbers and that's just because a revenue is a credit.
Jordahl: See but...
Hultman: So all these have parenthesis, so really just basically ignore them.
Jordahl: But revenue isn't really money that they're bringing in, but rather money that they're getting from the County tax dollars to the department, is that right, or is this actually revenue coming into the department from outside.
Hultman: It's revenue coming in. Well from any source.
Jordahl: From any source.
Hultman: Taxes or other sources.
Jordahl: So this includes taxes and all other sources. So that's again confusing. Again I'm not faulting the reporting system, I'm just trying to understand it, that we've got a...
Bolkcom: Well the revenues, my understanding of the revenue is a revenue is not tax dollars or outside revenues. So revenues that departments have projected for example, the ambulance first line, they projected that they'd bring in $684,000 in revenues, not including property taxes. They've actually brought in $144,000 for the first quarter which is 21% of what they've proposed they would bring in. They have yet to bring in $540,000. That's what that first line means. That's revenues, fees for what they do, that does not include tax asking. If you look at the departmental total for expenditures, the difference between what they're budget is and their proposed revenues or what we taxed for. So the difference between 1.2 million and $684,000 would be the tax asking.
Jordahl: Now which department are you looking at?
Bolkcom: I'm talking about ambulance.
Jordahl: Ambulance. Now I see expense total.
Lacina: Or go to the Board of Supervisors. We don't operate at $150. We anticipate 150 worth of revenue coming in from (inaudible).
Jordahl: Right, there you go. That makes sense. Thanks, Steve.
Bolkcom: But the revenue totals are outside revenues. They're not this, none of this includes property taxes.
Jordahl: None of that is taxes.
Hultman: Taxes for the fund are in, they're all in one department, Central Services, so that's where all the taxes show is under department 18, for the general basic fund. Halfway down.
Jordahl: OK, so taxes are shown on this page, but only under Central Services.
Hultman: Well they're in for the General Basic Fund, correct.
Jordahl: Yes. OK.
Stutsman: Anything else, Lynette?
Hultman: I guess not on this report, the next one. I have some...
Stutsman: Jonathan, any other questions or...
Jordahl: Well I mean we're talking about these other, in the other General Basic Fund, then we've also got the General Supplemental, Rural Basic, there on down the line, those also include tax dollars.
Hultman: Uh-huh. General Supplemental, the taxes are reflected in department 21. It's the very first line in that group.
Jordahl: OK, there it is.
Hultman: In the Rural Basic Fund, it's under department 23, that's where those taxes come in.
Jordahl: Now I'm confused again, it says block grants there, number 23.
Hultman: Right, that's where, that's the department where the rural basic revenues are imported.
Stutsman: The block grant really doesn't mean anything.
Hultman: That's more for the expenditures, but that's just the department titles been given.
Jordahl: This is maybe somewhere approach toward clarifying the budget process might be helpful.
Bolkcom: Well...
Stutsman: Yes, and I think that's what's confusing. Understandably so.
Bolkcom: Anything else?
Jordahl: I mean I apologize for not understanding this better, I just...
Bolkcom: There's plenty of...
Stutsman: And don't apologize. I think it is confusing and I think it's good to clarify some of these things, I think we all learn from this so...
Bolkcom: We've got good help, plenty of help available to help us understand this stuff.
Hultman: OK.
Stutsman: Anything else from that report?
Hultman: Not on that one, I guess. The last one you have is the expenditure report. For accounts payable, we're 25% through the year, one note, the payroll we've had, at the end of September, we had 7 out of the 26 payrolls so payroll we're actually 27%. So some of the departments that have payroll in them are going to be a little higher because of that reason. I just want to go through a few of them that are above that level. The Recorder is at 30%. They've had some clerical services and I haven't had a chance really to visit with Deborah, but I know with all the transition, July first, I know they hired some outside help, so I'm going to get together with her, just to make sure that's not going to be a problem for that budget.
Stutsman: She did mention at the Recorder's meeting last night that they've hired some temporary help with the vital statistics and...
Hultman: So that will probably even out once we get farther into the year. They also had some equipment purchase so again those are one time things that we'll even out as we get into the year. The block grant departments, all those you're going to see above average and that's because we pay the block grants at the beginning of the quarter. So the expenditure is reflected right away at the beginning of the quarter.
Lacina: But the balances were high enough that we were able to do that.
Hultman: Uh-huh. Department 50, Veteran's Affairs is at 31%. Their payroll is above the normal time for the year. The director's registration schools, meals, lodging, those are all above average. Due's, client rent, funeral services. One thing I did want to make sure and point out in this department, last year when the Board set the budget for this department, you only included enough for the director for 40 hours bi-weekly, and their payroll is being submitted at 50 hours bi-weekly. So that's one main reason for that department being above average. I know I pointed that out last time and it's still being done that way so I just wanted to make sure I point that out to you. They're at 31% so far, and we're only a quarter of the way through the year, so at the end of the 3rd quarter, if everything keeps up the way it is, their budget will...
Lacina: In the winter time, so he has greater demands and needs so...
Hultman: So that's something that we might want to...
Lacina: I guess we'll probably need to.
Stutsman: How do we handle visiting with a department about that? Do we have them come into a Board meeting?
Lacina: Cheryl can probably just make a phone call and say are you aware? Because maybe he is aware and maybe he has a...
Hultman: I'm sure he is because I know that was discussed last year.
Stutsman: He has a (inaudible) discussed last year...
Hultman: When the budget was set.
Bolkcom: We should have him come in.
Stutsman: OK.
Hultman: Juvenile Justice is at 28%, the electricity ran a little bit high, detention was also high so far so we'll be watching that one and...
Stutsman: That's one of the things that was mentioned in the statistics report yesterday, they had the highest number of juveniles in detention for one day that they'd ever had, 10 kids for one day.
Hultman: Wow.
Bolkcom: Wow.
Stutsman: So that's...
Duffy: That's sad.
Lacina: The national crime report shows adult crimes really being down, but nationally juveniles, as far as vicious crimes is up substantially nationwide. It's a really growing problem.
Hultman: I don't really have anything I guess beyond that first page. Are there any questions on the expenditure print out?
Bolkcom: It looks good, we're at 25, in total we're at 25% of revenues. Which is across the board pretty good. We're all, expenses in total we're at 23%, so, we're right on the money with revenues and we're a little bit under with expenditures at this point.
Jordahl: The, I'm going to ask for help one more time with the rural basic fund, the block grants, not so much the category, as the we're at 27% there on this block grants category.
Stutsman: For revenues or...
Jordahl: What is that?
Hultman: That is where you pay like your library block grants...
Jordahl: That's libraries. So libraries is the kind of thing that you would predict would be pretty regular.
Hultman: Those are paid, most of them I believe are on a quarterly basis. So July 1st you pay one payment, September 1st, you pay another payment, so we've paid 2 quarters for the libraries.
Jordahl: And we have only passed one quarter.
Hultman: Correct.
Jordahl: So we've made 2 payments instead of so, that's...
Bolkcom: So we're paid up until December 31st basically, so we're ahead, we're paid up for 6 months and we're looking at 3 month totals which include the fact that we've paid for 6 months.
Jordahl: This is actually a misleading percentage. This 27 should be half of that.
Bolkcom: So it will catch up.
Hultman: Well you're 20% expended of what you budgeted for that department.
Jordahl: See I'm not following there.
Hultman: You budgeted $389,847 and you've only spent $103,819.42.
Jordahl: Uh-huh.
Hultman: So if you divide those 2, you'll get 27%.
Jordahl: Yes.
Hultman: So that's what you've spent as of the end of September.
Jordahl: Right, but if we paid 2 quarters and we're looking at the fund balance for a quarter of the year and the percentage of the math is slipping away from me here, but you're going to have to, it seems like something is doubly wrong.
Bolkcom: Libraries are not the only thing paid out of this fund.
Hultman: That's right.
Bolkcom: OK, so we might be at 6 months on libraries, but we have the landfill, we have JCCOG will...
Jordahl: So that modifies that...So other things have to...
Bolkcom: We need to look at the rural fund and see what we find out, but...
Jordahl: Yes. Thank you.
Stutsman: Are there any other questions?
Duffy: I would like to make a comment, thanks again, I think this document really helps as far as budget wise is concerned, it's kind of a simple document and I really appreciate it. What it says about 25% we're close in both the revenues and the disbursements. The revenues really, that's not a stationary budget. You know that. Some of these things so thanks again.
Hultman: Thank you.
Stutsman: Thank you, Lynette, it's been real helpful to have you come up and do this on a quarterly basis. We appreciate you doing that.
Jordahl: Yes, and I find it indispensable to have you come up so that I can read these things because...
Stutsman: Discussion regarding the budgeting process. I don't...I think we just kind of put that on, I don't know if we have anything particular to discuss on that. Is there anything from the County Attorney?
Lacina: Lynette just real quick, on the budgeting process, you're starting to get the documents, some feed back from the departments.
Hultman: One sheet will be going out to the departments in the next week or so.
Lacina: Then tentatively they'll come back.
Hultman: The first part of December.
Lacina: OK. Great.
Stutsman: You know in connection with the budgeting process. We probably need to start thinking about our schedule with that. I'm just going to mention, I think Jonathan you said you were going to be gone the first week in January and I'm going to be gone the first week in February. So if anybody else has any times where they know they're going to be gone. We need to look at our calendars so that we can start thinking about how we want to approach this budget process. So it's kind of early but it's never too early to plan.
Bolkcom: We have a little more time this year because of the fact that we're not going to have 2 hearings, 2 budget hearings for the unusual need portion. We're just going to have one hearing, I assume.
Lacina: But that's only going to give us about 3 weeks because we still have to make the...
Bolkcom: March.
Lacina: Public notifications and hearing dates. March 15th is what we have to serve by.
Bolkcom: But we have a little more elbow room I think just because we don't have an earlier publishing date for the 2nd hearing. But I'm sure we're going to be extremely busy these...
Lacina: Last year, the end of January was basically when we had to have the budget wrapped up. Because Lynette then has to go in and modify the budget in order to make it consistent with the State's demands. Because it goes by service area as opposed to our process by department. So she needs a little lead time. But probably mid February we have to have a final list to make all the public hearings.
Bolkcom: Makes sense.
Jordahl: I like that service area of budget by the way. It seems to me like it's already a step in the direction of performance based budgeting because it talks about what results you're getting rather than what department you put your money in.
Lacina: It's confusing when you take the Sheriff's Department and law enforcement and break it up into 3 or 4 different areas. There are some questions as to is it appropriate to have Emergency Management, Sheriff, and maybe what I would perceive as an unrelated area in those areas because it's based on some old levies and tax certification. The performance based budgeting is really what we need to get into. This does...
Jordahl: Well yes.
Lacina: And this does, it breaks it down in a different way, but...
Jordahl: I'm saying it's a step in the direction. It's sort of it's not there, it's not the answer, it's not the thing in place, but it's closer.
Lacina: It's confusing to me. That's a very difficult budget to try and go in and to figure out exactly where the dollar for public service went when you're trying to break it down across the Board for all the different areas. But that's what the law states, that's what we do.
Stutsman: Uh-huh. Any reports from the County Attorney? OK. Is there anything else then that we need to talk about? OK, we're adjourned.
Adjourned at 10:10 a.m.
Attest: Tom Slockett, Auditor
By Melinda McCleary and Casie Parkins, Recording Secretaries